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		<title>By: Bharath Desai</title>
		<link>http://varnam.org/blog/2008/05/my_article_in_mint_genetic_dat/comment-page-1/#comment-11481</link>
		<dc:creator>Bharath Desai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rajesh,

In 3138 BC, (a) there were no horses in India and (b) Iron age had not started in India.

So if there were no horses, which animal pulled Arjuna&#039;s ratha? If there was no iron, what weapons did they fight with?</description>
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<p>In 3138 <span class="caps">BC, </span>(a) there were no horses in India and (b) Iron age had not started in India.</p>
<p>So if there were no horses, which animal pulled Arjuna&#8217;s ratha? If there was no iron, what weapons did they fight with?</p>
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		<title>By: Rajesh Nara</title>
		<link>http://varnam.org/blog/2008/05/my_article_in_mint_genetic_dat/comment-page-1/#comment-11468</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajesh Nara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mahabharata war took place in 3138 BC.   This can easily 
be proven by the fact that the Sarasvati river in Northern India
dried up completely by 2000 BC.  The Mahabharatha states
that the Sarasvati river had stopped being an ocean going river.
The recent excavations of this river show that indeed, it had
stopped going to the ocean by 3000 BC!   In Mahabharath, 
when Balarama goes on the pilgrimage, he notes that the 
Sarasvati is dying (no longer ocean going).  That means from 
this piece of literary and geological evidence that Mahabharatha
is before 3000 BC!  The dating is very easy now due to discovery
of Sarasvati river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mahabharata war took place in 3138 <span class="caps">BC.  </span> This can easily <br />
be proven by the fact that the Sarasvati river in Northern India<br />
dried up completely by 2000 <span class="caps">BC. </span> The Mahabharatha states<br />
that the Sarasvati river had stopped being an ocean going river.<br />
The recent excavations of this river show that indeed, it had<br />
stopped going to the ocean by 3000 BC!   In Mahabharath, <br />
when Balarama goes on the pilgrimage, he notes that the <br />
Sarasvati is dying (no longer ocean going).  That means from <br />
this piece of literary and geological evidence that Mahabharatha<br />
is before 3000 BC!  The dating is very easy now due to discovery<br />
of Sarasvati river.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
		<link>http://varnam.org/blog/2008/05/my_article_in_mint_genetic_dat/comment-page-1/#comment-6009</link>
		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stumbled upon this blog and I just had to comment on this lunatic

@T Ramaswami

&quot;If the Ram Rajya and the MB dynasties were as great as the epics make them to be, then how come they have not left any remnants? Perhaps they never happened.&quot;

Perhaps you haven&#039;t heard of Google&#039;s sat images of the Ram Setu linking India and Sri Lanka? Or that after the recent Ram Setu row by the UPA govt and it&#039;s subsequent withdrawal of an affidavit denying Lord Ram&#039;s existence, tourism has increased to Sri Lanka where Sita was held captive by 

Ravan? There is extensive proof that the Ram Setu is a man made bridge made of coral rocks in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Go look it up before making any more irrational comments.

If you have heard of Wikipedia, then look up this bit too. There have been recent excavations to reveal the ancient city of Dwaraka. 

What I have noticed from your posts is that Mahabharat and Ramayan alternate from being either extremely relevant or completely irrelevant depending on whether it suits your current argument.Your response that all that the Russians came to India was hilarious! They all came and didn&#039;t leave even one man behind? What happened? An earthquake? or the bubonic plague? How do you explain their migration to the last man, woman, and child? 

It&#039;s also very funny how to keep claiming that archelogists don&#039;t dare excavate the sites in Ayodhya or Mathura because they are afraid they might not find anything. Which rock have you been 
living under? The threat of incurring the mulsim wrath from any such undertaking is very real and we have to tread very carefully so as not to incite communal violence. We are still reaping the 
horrors of every terrorist attack that claims retribution for the Babri masjid being demolished.

My humble take on why you keep harping on the AIT even in the face of so much proof against it, is because you are probably a Brahmin yourself and desperately want to identify with the White 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled upon this blog and I just had to comment on this lunatic</p>
<p>@T Ramaswami</p>
<p>&#8220;If the Ram Rajya and the MB dynasties were as great as the epics make them to be, then how come they have not left any remnants? Perhaps they never happened.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you haven&#8217;t heard of Google&#8217;s sat images of the Ram Setu linking India and Sri Lanka? Or that after the recent Ram Setu row by the <span class="caps">UPA </span>govt and it&#8217;s subsequent withdrawal of an affidavit denying Lord Ram&#8217;s existence, tourism has increased to Sri Lanka where Sita was held captive by </p>
<p>Ravan? There is extensive proof that the Ram Setu is a man made bridge made of coral rocks in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Go look it up before making any more irrational comments.</p>
<p>If you have heard of Wikipedia, then look up this bit too. There have been recent excavations to reveal the ancient city of Dwaraka. </p>
<p>What I have noticed from your posts is that Mahabharat and Ramayan alternate from being either extremely relevant or completely irrelevant depending on whether it suits your current argument.Your response that all that the Russians came to India was hilarious! They all came and didn&#8217;t leave even one man behind? What happened? An earthquake? or the bubonic plague? How do you explain their migration to the last man, woman, and child? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also very funny how to keep claiming that archelogists don&#8217;t dare excavate the sites in Ayodhya or Mathura because they are afraid they might not find anything. Which rock have you been <br />
living under? The threat of incurring the mulsim wrath from any such undertaking is very real and we have to tread very carefully so as not to incite communal violence. We are still reaping the <br />
horrors of every terrorist attack that claims retribution for the Babri masjid being demolished.</p>
<p>My humble take on why you keep harping on the <span class="caps">AIT </span>even in the face of so much proof against it, is because you are probably a Brahmin yourself and desperately want to identify with the White <br />
race. By hook or crook.</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://varnam.org/blog/2008/05/my_article_in_mint_genetic_dat/comment-page-1/#comment-2830</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Because all the Russians came to India&lt;/i&gt;

Not according to your own words. Here is what you wrote.

&quot;History reveals that around 2000-1800 BC, all along the Euro-Asian west-east axis, a horde of invaders, from above the 50N latitudes called the horse-people, pushed down. Every civilization β China, India, Mesopotamia, Anatolia and Greece β was overcome as they had the most powerful weapon known then β the horse chariot.&quot;

So once again: How come there is no MB in China, Mesopotamia, Anatolia and Greece, but only in India. If they went to all these countries, closing down Russia as you suggest, why is there no trace of MB or Ramayana elsewhere?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Because all the Russians came to India</i></p>
<p>Not according to your own words. Here is what you wrote.</p>
<p>&#8220;History reveals that around 2000-1800 <span class="caps">BC, </span>all along the Euro-Asian west-east axis, a horde of invaders, from above the 50N latitudes called the horse-people, pushed down. Every civilization &acirc; China, India, Mesopotamia, Anatolia and Greece &acirc; was overcome as they had the most powerful weapon known then &acirc; the horse chariot.&#8221;</p>
<p>So once again: How come there is no MB in China, Mesopotamia, Anatolia and Greece, but only in India. If they went to all these countries, closing down Russia as you suggest, why is there no trace of MB or Ramayana elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All diggers went to Russia. Then how can we dig.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All diggers went to Russia. Then how can we dig.</p>
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		<title>By: T.R.Ramaswami</title>
		<link>http://varnam.org/blog/2008/05/my_article_in_mint_genetic_dat/comment-page-1/#comment-2828</link>
		<dc:creator>T.R.Ramaswami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absence of effort to search for evidence is evidence of absence. No one has the guts to dig or if they have they have kept their mouth shut because nothing was found.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absence of effort to search for evidence is evidence of absence. No one has the guts to dig or if they have they have kept their mouth shut because nothing was found.</p>
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		<title>By: T.R.Ramaswami</title>
		<link>http://varnam.org/blog/2008/05/my_article_in_mint_genetic_dat/comment-page-1/#comment-2827</link>
		<dc:creator>T.R.Ramaswami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because all the Russians came to India
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		<title>By: NotReallyAnonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotReallyAnonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thread reminds me of a few words that must be put up here for Ramaswami.

&lt;i&gt;Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thread reminds me of a few words that must be put up here for Ramaswami.</p>
<p><i>Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Vinod</title>
		<link>http://varnam.org/blog/2008/05/my_article_in_mint_genetic_dat/comment-page-1/#comment-2825</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramaswami,

When asked a direct question, you really know how to side step it. I saw this point in JK&#039;s article too. In your article you mentioned Mahabharata happened in Russia and it was adopted in India.

Here are your own words &quot;If we donβt accept the invasion theory, then the only other explanation is that both Mahabharat and Ramayan took place outside India, on the Russian steppes, and their stories have come down to us as oral histories through the horse-people, which were then refined to suit cultural and later ethnic, social and political agendas.&quot;

Here is my question: Why is no one along the path from Russia to India telling any stories about it? Did they all forget?

Note: I am going along with your hypothesis that it all happened in Russia, so don&#039;t repeat again and again, what the date is. Can you please give a simple answer to that question: How come no Russian remembers this story?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramaswami,</p>
<p>When asked a direct question, you really know how to side step it. I saw this point in <span class="caps">JK&#8217;</span>s article too. In your article you mentioned Mahabharata happened in Russia and it was adopted in India.</p>
<p>Here are your own words &#8220;If we don&acirc;t accept the invasion theory, then the only other explanation is that both Mahabharat and Ramayan took place outside India, on the Russian steppes, and their stories have come down to us as oral histories through the horse-people, which were then refined to suit cultural and later ethnic, social and political agendas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is my question: Why is no one along the path from Russia to India telling any stories about it? Did they all forget?</p>
<p>Note: I am going along with your hypothesis that it all happened in Russia, so don&#8217;t repeat again and again, what the date is. Can you please give a simple answer to that question: How come no Russian remembers this story?</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramaswami,

MB is an imaginary story made up by a bunch of poets and so it is foolish to lookup for a date for it and since it is an imaginary story, what revelance has it to Aryans?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramaswami,</p>
<p>MB is an imaginary story made up by a bunch of poets and so it is foolish to lookup for a date for it and since it is an imaginary story, what revelance has it to Aryans?</p>
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