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		<title>Converting Kublai Khan</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Joshua Project, <a id="lkcj" title="the 10/40 window" href="http://www.joshuaproject.net/10-40-window.php">the 10/40 window</a> is home to people where the gospel has to be preached. The goal of this project is to share information to &#8220;encourage pioneer church-planting movements among every ethnic group and to facilitate effective coordination of mission agency efforts.&#8221; Or in simple words, facilitate conversion in Islamic countries, India, China and other minor countries in the neighborhood.</p>

<p>Ever since Roman Emperor Constantine legitimized the Jesus movement and converted to Christianity in his death bed, the religion expanded in a major way to change the West forever. There was a similar opportunity for Christians in the 13th century to convert Kublai Khan. If the Khan had converted, during the time of Mongol dominance (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mongol_Empire_History.jpg">see map</a>), the religious map of China and Mongolia would have made a Joshua Project volunteer smile.</p>

<p>The Khan did not hate Christians; in fact he had great respect for them. He was always curious about Christian kings and princes and wanted to know more about the Pope and how how Christians worshiped. When Niccol&Atilde;&sup2; and Maffeo (Marco Polo&#8217;s father and uncle) were returning back to Venice after their first visit, the Khan sent a letter to the Pope with them. It was a challenge. He wanted the Pope to send a hundred missionaries prepared to proselytize. These missionaries had to reason out that their faith was superior than others. If the Khan could be convinced he was ready to become a man of the Church without renouncing the Mongolian religion. He also wanted the Polos to get him the oil from the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, believed to have great healing powers.</p>

<p>The Polos gave Khan&#8217;s letter to the newly elected&Acirc;&nbsp; Pope Gregory X who could only spare two Dominican monks instead of the hundred. With the oil, the two Polo brothers, along with a 17 year Marco Polo and the monks, started their journey to the Khan&#8217;s court. The monks dropped out in the middle of the journey due to fear, but the Polos reached the Khan&#8217;s court near Beijing and the Khan treated the oil with respect (the same way he would treat<a href="http://varnam.org/blog/2009/06/how-did-adam-reach-sri-lanka/"> relics from Sri Pada</a>)</p>

<p>Kublai Khan was once challenged by Nayan Khan, his uncle, who was a Nestorian Christian. In this power struggle, Nayan fought under a standard which displayed the &#8220;Cross of Christ&#8221;, but he did get any visions like Constantine during the <a id="q:0k" title="battle of the Milvian bridge" href="http://varnam.org/blog/2008/09/constantines_dream/">battle of the Milvian bridge</a>. Nayan lost and was killed as per Mongol custom &#8211; by wrapping in a carpet and dragged around violently &#8211; so that blood is not spilled. Following this when various people made fun of Nayan&#8217;s Christian faith and Holy Cross, Kublai Khan differentiated between Nayan&#8217;s treachery and his faith and ensured the Christians that they will not be persecuted for their religion; he did not behave like the <a id="i2pw" title="15th century Spaniards" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree">15th century Spaniards</a> and <a id="ganf" title="17th century French" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Fontainebleau">17th century French</a>.</p>

<p>Actually Kublai Khan&#8217;s mother, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorghaghtani">Sorghaghtani Beki</a>, was a Nestorian Christian. So you would think that she would influence him to convert. Even though she was a single parent, she made him appreciate Buddhism, Taoism and Islam besides Christianity. It was probably a wise thing to do to preserve harmony in the empire, but Sorghaghtani Beki did it out of conviction.</p>

<p>Seeing the Khan&#8217;s sympathy towards Christians the Polos asked why he did not convert? He said Christianity was just another religion and nothing else. Much before Marco Polo, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Rubruck">William of Rubruck</a> &#8211; a Franciscan missionary &#8211; made his way to Karakorum, debating Buddhist priests and nearly dying of starvation. He finally met Mongke Khan, Kublai Khan&#8217;s brother who explained to the Friar that the God has passed various religious beliefs to people and Mongols were a tolerant folk.</p>

<p>Kublai Khan told Marco Polo that he found idolaters had more power &#8211; they could make wine cups float to the khan or make storms go away. Basically he was more impressed with shaman magic than the promise of an after life. He said if he converted to Christianity and if his barons asked for an explanation, he had none. He thought that embracing Christianity would weaken him and the best way to maintain peace in the empire was to be in good terms with barons.</p>

<p>Right now 50% of Mongolians are Buddhists and 40% don&#8217;t belong to any religion. Christians and Shamanists form 6%; Muslims, 4%.</p>

References:<br />
<ol>
	<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400078806?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jksobservat-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1400078806">Marco Polo: From Venice to Xanadu</a> by  Laurence Bergreen</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300089007?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jksobservat-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0300089007">Marco Polo and the Discovery of the World </a> by John Larner</li>
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		<title>How did Adam reach Sri Lanka?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this picture, taken in 1885, you will see a small ladder placed near the top-right window. In this picture, taken more than a century later, you can see the ladder exactly at the same position. The building is Church of the Holy Sepulchre, built where Jesus is believed to be crucified and burried, and [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://varnam.org/blog/2009/08/the-man-who-came-to-destroy-hinduism-1/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The Man who came to destroy Hinduism &#8211; 1'>The Man who came to destroy Hinduism &#8211; 1</a> <small> On Jan 15, 1823, Jean-Antoine Dubois, a French-Catholic missionary, who spent time in Pondicherry, Madras Presidency and Mysore left India for Paris, never to return again. During his time...</small></li><li><a href='http://varnam.org/blog/2009/08/the-man-who-came-to-destroy-hinduism-2/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The Man who came to destroy Hinduism &#8211; 2'>The Man who came to destroy Hinduism &#8211; 2</a> <small> The headquarters of thePropaganda fide in Rome (Read Part 1) It would be wrong to say that at that point in time Indians of the 1830s hated English. At...</small></li></ol>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a id="eufq" title="In this picture" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ChurchOfTheHolySepulcher1885.png">In this picture</a>, taken in 1885, you will see a small ladder placed near the top-right window. <a id="k7g8" title="In this picture" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre_in_Jerusalem.jpg">In this picture</a>, taken more than a century later, you can see the ladder exactly at the same position. The building is Church of the Holy Sepulchre, built where Jesus is believed to be crucified and burried, and in Jerusalem, moving even a ladder requires divine intervention.</p>

<p>There is another place in the world, which is holy not just for Christians and Muslims, but also for Hindus and Buddhists where such problems do not exist. Located in Sri Lanka and&Acirc;&nbsp;currently called <a id="j1f9" title="Adam's peak" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%27s_peak">Adam&#8217;s peak,</a> it was called <em>Samanalakanda </em>by the Sinhalese and <em>Shivanolipatha Malai </em>and <em>Shiva padam </em>by Hindus<em>.</em>So connection does Adam have with Sri Lanka and how did it become Adam&#8217;s peak? </p>

<p>First, what&#8217;s at the top of the mountain.? Captain John Ribeyro who fought in the civil war in the 17th century described the summit<sup>[5]</sup>.</p>

<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=lg4PAAAAYAAJ&amp;dq=Adam%27s%20Peak&amp;pg=PA63&amp;ci=160,335,684,416&amp;source=bookclip"><img src="http://books.google.com/books?id=lg4PAAAAYAAJ&amp;pg=PA63&amp;img=1&amp;zoom=3&amp;hl=en&amp;sig=ACfU3U36Lv9mS5FA0IjXKOXfzN1G66JsNQ&amp;ci=160%2C335%2C684%2C416&amp;edge=1" border="0" alt="Text not available" /></a></p>

<p>Hindus believe that this depression on the mountain which resembles a giant foot is the foot step of Shiva; for Buddhists it is the foot print of Buddha. Chrisitians believe that it belongs to St. Thomas and there are many other traditions which attribute the foot print to Jehovah, Eunuch of Candace and Satan<sup>[1]</sup>. It is Muslim tradition that attributes the foot print to Adam, their first prophet.</p>

<p>In fact there is an explanation for how Adam, a person from a middle eastern tradition, reached Sri Lanka. God, upset by Adam and Eve, threw them out of heaven and Adam landed in Sri Lanka creating an impression on the peak. He repented for a millennium when Gabriel took him to Arabia where Eve had landed. They both then returned to Sri Lanka and propagated the human race<sup>[4]</sup>.</p>

<p><img  align="left" src="http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/tiptronicus/sripada-small.jpg" alt=""/>Soleyman, an Arab merchant who visited Ceylon in the ninth century, mentioned the Adam tradition, which suggests that it was prevalent within two centuries of Islam&#8217;s founding. Sindbad the Sailor&#8217;s tales, believed to be partly based on real sailors tales, also mentions a pilgrimage to the place &#8220;where Adam was confined after his banishment from Paradiese.&#8221; It is believed that this tradition originated among the Copts (Egyptian Christians) of the fourth and fifth centuries<sup>[4]</sup>. There is also a story which mentions that <a id="qe95" title="a group of three Arabs led by Sheikh Seijuddin" href="http://historicalleys.blogspot.com/2008/12/perumal-and-pickle.html">a group of three Arabs led by Sheikh Seijuddin</a>, who according to tradition, <a id="ujz3" title="converted Cheraman Perumal of Kodungallur" href="http://varnam.org/blog/2005/08/the_myth_of_cheraman_perumals-3/">converted Cheraman Perumal of Kodungallur</a>, were on a pilgrimage to Adam&#8217;s peak.</p>

<p>Diego de Couto, a Portuguese writer of the 16th century did not believe it was the foot print of Adam; he thought it belonged to St. Thomas. Marco Polo had heard from Muslims and Christians that there was a monument to Adam, but he did not agree with that it had anything to do with Adam. This was because, according to the scripture of Marco Polo&#8217;s Church, Adam belonged to another part of the world. Instead he believed the Buddhist version and that the teeth, hairs and bowl of some &#8220;venerable figure&#8221; was commemorated<sup>[2]</sup>.</p>

<p>When he heard about the relics, Marco Polo&#8217;s patron Kublai Khan sent emissaries to Ceylon<br />
to ask <a class="new" title="Parakkamabahu II (page does not exist)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Par%C3%A2kkamab%C3%A2hu_II&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1">Parakkamabahu II</a>, a Sri Lankan King without a Wikipedia entry, for these items. It took three years for the emissaries to reach Ceylon and they got two molar teeth, some hair, and the bowl. According to Marco Polo, Kublai Khan received these items with respect<sup>[2]</sup>.</p>

<p>Marco Polo never climbed the mountain, but Ibn Battuta did. He went to Ceylon specifically for mountaineering. With an entourage of 10 Brahmin priests, 15 porters, 10 courtiers and 4 yogis (provided by <a id="k0px" title="Martanda Cinkaiariyan" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martanda_Cinkaiariyan">Martanda Cinkaiariyan</a> of the <a id="i.1o" title="Aryacakravarti dynasty" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arya_Chakaravarthi">Aryacakravarti dynasty</a>) he made the trip to the peak and back. The final climb was quite hard&Acirc;&nbsp; &#8211; a vertical ascent &#8220;by means of little stirrups affixed to chains suspended from iron pegs.&#8221; There he prayed with Buddhists and Muslims but does not mention seeing Christians<sup>[3]</sup>.</p>

<p><a id="uyb4" title="It was renamed to Adam's peak" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IndiaArchaeology/message/5136">The mountain was officially renamed to Adam&#8217;s peak</a> by <a id="s8vc" title="Major James Rennell" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rennell">Major James Rennell</a>, the British geographer who worked in India.</p>

References:<br />
<ol>
	<li>The History of a Mountain By Elise Reclus, Bertha Ness, John Lillie</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400078806?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jksobservat-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1400078806">Marco Polo: From Venice to Xanadu</a> by by Laurence Bergreen</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0520243854?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jksobservat-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0520243854">The Adventures of Ibn Battuta</a> by Ross E. Dunn.</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/8120612345?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jksobservat-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=8120612345">Adam&#8217;s Peak</a> by William Skeen</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1104292181?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jksobservat-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1104292181">History Of Ceylon: Presented By Captain John Ribeyro To The King Of Portugal, In 1685 (1847)</a></li>
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(Image Credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/munir/412590331/sizes/l/">Munir</a>)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Reader Kedar <a href="http://varnam.org/blog/2003/08/kerala_school_of_mathematics/comment-page-1/#comment-10446">asked two questions recently</a><br />
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	<li>There is a huge gap between Mahabharata (3100 <span class="caps">BCE,</span> 2450 <span class="caps">BCE,</span> 1500 <span class="caps">BCE</span>) and the Mahajapadas. What happened there?</li>
	<li>Who was the contemporary of Alexander of Macedonia? Chandragupta Maurya or the Guptas? Do Mahavira, Buddha and Adi Shankara belong to an earlier period?</li>
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We will look at (2) today and deal with (1) later.<br />

<p>At the International Conference on Indian History, Civilisation and Geopolitics 2009, Dr Subramanian Swamy gave the valdedictory speech on the need to defalsify Indian history. In this speech, Dr. Swamy stated that most dates&Acirc;&nbsp; related to Indian history &#8211; Rigveda, Mahabharata, Buddha, Asoka &#8211;&Acirc;&nbsp; are wrong. This happened because European historians identified Sandrocottus, mentioned by Megasthenes, as Chandragupta Maurya. This Sandrocottos was a contemporary of Alexander and from associated calculations, the date of Chandragupta Maurya&#8217;s coronation was found. Based on this point, Asoka&#8217;s corononation was calculated, so was the time of Buddha.</p>

But according to Swamy,&Acirc;&nbsp; the correct dates are as follows<br />
<blockquote>However, on the basis of these calculations we can say that Gupta Chandragupta was &#8220;Sandrocottus&#8221; c.327 <span class="caps">B.C.</span> His son, Samudragupta, was the great king who established a unified kingdom all over India, and obtained from the Cholas, Pandyas, and Cheras their recognition of him. He also had defeated Seleucus Nicator, while his father Chandragupta was king. On this calculation we can also place Prithu at 6777 <span class="caps">B.C. </span>and Lord Rama before that. Derivation of other dates without discussion may also be briefly mentioned here: Buddha&#8217;s Nirvana 1807 <span class="caps">B.C.,</span> Maurya Chandragupta c. 1534 <span class="caps">B.C.,</span> Harsha Vikramaditya (Parmar) c. 82 <span class="caps">B.C.</span>[<a href="http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2009/01/de-falsify-indian-history-dr.html">Non-random-Thoughts: 'De-falsify Indian history' -- Dr Subramanian Swamy</a>]</blockquote>
Thus, a case is presented that Western historians distorted Indian history and it is our responsibility to correct it. So let us accept for a moment that Buddha lived in 1807 <span class="caps">BCE.</span><a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IndiaArchaeology/message/8554"> We don&#8217;t have archaeological evidence of the cities and kingdoms</a> mentioned in Buddhist texts dating to that period.<br />

<p>If Rama lived in 6777 <span class="caps">BCE, </span>he belonged to the Neolithic age and would have fought with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:N%C3%A9olithique_0001.jpg">axe heads and chisels</a>. This Rama would be vastly different from the one portrayed in Ramayana, like King David. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Dan_Stele">Tel Dan Stele</a> mentions David&#8217;s existence, <a href="http://varnam.org/blog/2008/12/bibles-buried-secrets-22/">but archaeology has found that</a> he would have been not a king, but a petty warlord of a small chiefdom with few settlements. So did this Neolothic Rama&#8217;s exploits survive as a <a href="https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/citd/holtorf/2.0.html">mnemohistory</a>, like how David&#8217;s lives in the Torah?<br /></p>

Whether due to colonial bias or not, we have certain dates and there is an effort to propose new ones. But these new ones have to take into consideration the social order of the time and also be backed up by archaeology.<br />
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(Balarama depicted on a 1st century BCE Maues coin. via wikipedia)


Between 190 and 180 BCE, towards the end of the Mauryan empire, there lived a king named Agathocles near Ai-Khanoum, in the Kunduz area of Afghanistan. There are no cities, monuments or accounts about him and he would have remained unknown if not for one [...]


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Between 190 and 180 <span class="caps">BCE, </span>towards the end of the Mauryan empire, there lived a king named <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agathocles_of_Bactria">Agathocles</a> near Ai-Khanoum, in the Kunduz area of Afghanistan. There are no cities, monuments or accounts about him and he would have remained unknown if not for one thing &#8211; coins.</p><p></p><p>Some time in the 70s, archaeologists found two types of coins issued by him. One set was Greek silver coins depicting Zeus and Dionysos. He also issued bronze and silver coins, square or rectangular in shape, which portryated Indian gods like Vishnu, Shiva, Vasudeva, Buddha and Balarama. On these coins were written, in Brahmi or Kharoshthi, that the money belonged to <em>Rajane Agathuklayasa</em>.<blockquote>&#8220;These square coins, dating back to 180- <span class="caps">BC, </span>with Krishna on one side and Balram on the other, were unearthed recently in Al Khanoun in Afghanistan and are the earliest proof that Krishna was venerated as a god, and that the worship had spread beyond the Mathura region,&#8221; says T K V Rajan, archaeologist and founder-director, Indian Science Monitor, who is holding a five-day exhibition, In search of Lord Krishna,&#8217; in the city from Saturday. [<a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chennai/New_finds_take_archaeologists_closer_to_Krishna/articleshow/3898205.cms">New finds take archaeologists closer to Krishna-Chennai-Cities-The Times of India</a>]</blockquote>
The images show <a href="http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/sastra-vedas/agathocles-krishna.jpg">Vasudeva carrying</a> a <em>chakra</em> and <em>sankha</em> on one side and <a href="http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/sastra-vedas/agathocles-balarama.jpg">Balarama carrying</a> a <em>gada</em> (club) and <em>hala</em> (plough) and are some of the earliest coins depicting Krishna and Balarama. But these are not recent discoveries as mentioned in Times of India; a paper on it (Narain, <span class="caps">A.K. </span>&#8220;Two Hindu Divinities on the Coins of Agathocles from Ai-Khanum&#8221;, <em>Journal of Numismatic Society of India</em>) was published in 1973.</p><p></p><p>References:
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	<li><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=fh84AAAAIAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=Frank+Lee+Holt&amp;ei=55hhSfeHMaOSkATTuf3tBQ">Alexander the Great and Bactria</a> <span class="addmd">By Frank Lee Holt</span></li>
	<li><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=5vd-lKzyFg0C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=Iconography+of+Balarama&amp;ei=L6FhSciYNZHGlQSM_MipDg">Iconography of Balarama</a> <span class="addmd">By <span class="caps">N.P.</span> Joshi</span></li>
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		<title>Buddhist Art at Amaravati</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the period between the Mauryas and Guptas lot of wealth and energy were spent on Buddhist architecture and one of their major symbol was the stupa. The main sites of Buddhist stupas are Bharhut and Sanchi in Madhya Pradesh and Amaravati in Andhra Pradesh.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the period between the Mauryas and Guptas lot of wealth and energy were spent on Buddhist architecture and one of their major symbol was the stupa. The main sites of Buddhist stupas are Bharhut and Sanchi in Madhya Pradesh and Amaravati in Andhra Pradesh.</p>

<p>The stupa in Amaravati, which is larger than the more famous one in Sanchi, was originally built during the time of Emperor Asoka. It was completed in 200 <span class="caps">A.D </span>and is decorated with carved panels which tell the story of Buddha&#8217;s life. This region between Krishna and Godavari was an important place for Buddhism from the 2<sup>nd</sup> century <span class="caps">B.C </span>and some ancient sculpture in low relief has been found here. During the Satavahana period (2<sup>nd</sup> &#8211; 3<sup>rd</sup> century <span class="caps">A.D</span>), Dharanikota near Amaravati was chosen as the capital. The stupa was then adorned with limestone reliefs and free standing Buddha figures. [<a title="The Wonder That Was India by A. L. Basham" href="http://www.varnam.org/history/books.php">13</a>]</p>

During the period of the decline of Buddhism, this stupa was also neglected and it was burried under rubble. There is a 14<sup>th</sup> century inscription in Sri Lanka which mentions repairs made to the stupa and after that it was forgotten.<br />
<blockquote>If the early history of Amaravati and its stupa is dramatic and intriguing, its chance re-discovery by the archaeologists is more so. Around the year 1796, an enterprising zamindar shifted his residence from crowded Chintapalli to deserted Amaravati. He soon invited other people to settle in Amaravati. This led to the construction of roads and houses in the area. In the course of construction, the workers often found large bricks and carved limestone slabs below the ground. The news soon reached the ears of Colonel Colin Mackenzie, who visited the site twice (in 1787 and 1818) and prepared drawings and sketches of the relics in the area. Eventually, several European scholars like Sir Walter Smith, Robert Sewell, James Burgess and Alexander Rea excavated the site and unearthed many sculptures that once adorned the stupa. In recent decades, the Archaeological Survey of India has conducted further excavations in the area.

Art historians regard the Amaravati art as one of the three major styles or schools of ancient Indian art, the other two being the Gandhara style and the Mathura style. Some of the Buddhist sculptures of Amaravati betray a Greco-Roman influence that was the direct result of the close trade and diplomatic contacts between South India and the ancient Romans. Indeed, Amaravati has itself yielded a few Roman coins[<a title="History in stone" href="http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mp/2002/01/28/stories/2002012800200300.htm">History in stone</a>]</blockquote>
The Amravati school of art had great influence on art in Sri Lanka and South-East Asia as products from here were carried to those countries. It also had influence over South Indian sculpture. The Government Museum at Egmore (Madras Museum), one of the oldest and largest museums in Asia  hosts the &#8220;Amaravati Gallery&#8221;.

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		<title>The legend of Charumati maybe true</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nepal has a 2300 year old written history. The legend of Charumati, Asoka's daughter, maybe true.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="pullquote">&#8220;This will surely open a new horizon in the history of the Kathmandu Valley&Atilde;&cent;??&Atilde;&cent;??</p>

<p>When it comes to Emperor Asoka&#8217;s children, the standard line in most textbooks is about how Mahinda and Sanghamitta were sent to Ceylon to spread Buddhism. There is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asoka">not much mention</a> about his other children and what they did.</p>

He had other sons named Kunala and Tivara[<a href="http://varnam.org/history/books.php">14</a>]. Apparently he also had a daughter named Charumati,  and recently one <em>stupa</em> constructed by her was found in the Kathmandu Valley.<br />
<blockquote>Archaeologists at the Department of Archaeology, a government institution to conserve and protect ancient monuments of the country, said this is the first time something has been found in the Kathmandu Valley written in Brahmi script, which was prevalent in 300 <span class="caps">BC.</span>

<p>Only two inscriptions have been found so far in Brahmi script in Nepal &Atilde;&cent;?? one in Lumbini and the other in Lignihawa, both erected by emperor Ashoka.</p>

<p>&Atilde;&cent;??We were just enlightened. We could not believe when we found bricks with a word in Brahmi script. This will surely open a new horizon in the history of the Kathmandu Valley,&Atilde;&cent;?&Acirc;¯said senior archaeologist Prakash Darnal.</p>

<p>The brick has a Dharma-Chakra emblem, two Swastikas, a word &Atilde;&cent;??Cha-ru-wa-ti&Atilde;&cent;?&Acirc;¯in Brahmi script and also two other words in the most ancient form of Nepalbhasa script, Bhujimol.</p>

<p>&Atilde;&cent;??Till date, historians believe that the sixth century AD inscription of Mandeva at the Changu Narayan is the oldest inscription found in the Valley and a statue of Jaya Barma, found at Mali Gaon, is regarded as made in the second century AD&Atilde;&cent;?&Acirc;¯, he said.</p>

<p>&Atilde;&cent;??What we have found in Chabahil may prove that Kathmandu has a 2,300-year-old written history,&Atilde;&cent;?&Acirc;¯Darnal said. But he also added that the evidence is not yet scientifically tested and the word could have been written later in Brahmi script that was extinct by the second century in Nepal.</p>

&Atilde;&cent;??The word &Atilde;&cent;??Charuwati&Atilde;&cent;?&Acirc;¯proves the legend of Charumati, said to be Ashoka&Atilde;&cent;??s daughter, and this has some grounds in the history&Atilde;&cent;?&Acirc;¯, he said.[<a href="http://www.thehimalayantimes.com/PrintStory.asp?filepath=aATaoanlaNaeaw2a/a2Ta0wa/Wa2a/zugaHaoZaea/aFWata1yuxydgra1vwoIamal">2300-year-old inscription found in Chabahil</a>]</blockquote>

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		<title>Where was he born again?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though the popular version of history says that Siddhartha was born in Lumbini in present day Nepal, there are a bunch of folks from Orissa who want to prove that the Buddha was born in Kapileshwar village in Orissa. This version is not just a emotional outburst of some fanatics, but of some archaeological [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Even though the popular version of history says that Siddhartha was born in Lumbini in present day Nepal, there are a bunch of folks from Orissa who want to prove that the <a href="http://www.varnam.org/history/2004/05/buddha_born_in_orissa.php">Buddha was born in Kapileshwar</a> village in Orissa. This version is not just a emotional outburst of some fanatics, but of some archaeological experts. These folks have found some artifacts like pottery dating to 6<sup>th</sup> B.C., but I have not figured out how pottery can help in establishing this theory. But now one historian has come forward suggesting that this is all nonsense.<br />
<blockquote>He said, &#8220;The Buddha was neither born in Orissa <strong>nor visited the place during his lifetime</strong>.&#8221; Mr Behera said the claims made in this regard could go against the interests of the state.

<p>The controversy began after it was projected sometime ago that the Buddha was born at Kapileswar, a village near here. Among others, an Ashokan inscription said to have been discovered from the place in 1928 was cited to prove the point. The inscription was similar to the one discovered in 1898 at Lumbini in Nepal, which has all through been acknowledged as the evidence to point that the Buddha was born there. The Lumbini inscription describes that Ashok visited the place because the Buddha was born there.</p>

<p>Mr Behera said the Kapileswar inscription had already been declared as bogus. &#8220;Eminent epigraphist <span class="caps">D.C.</span> Sircar, at the 1980 Indian History Congress in Mumbai, had described the Kapileswar inscription as a forged document,&#8221; he added. &#8220;Historical claims must be backed by evidence . But what some people are doing is far from the truth. There has been no serious research to disprove that the Buddha was born in Lumbini,&#8221; he said.</p>

&#8220;Buddhist literature is silent about the Buddha being born anywhere in the Kalinga region, let alone Kapileswar village. The works of almost all noted scholars on Ashoka do not mention the Kapileswar inscription as believable evidence to change history,&#8221; he said. [<a title="New debate on birthplace of Buddha" href="http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=1,1686,0,0,1,0">New debate on birthplace of Buddha</a>]</blockquote>
The Govt. of India did not have the habit of issuing birth certificates to people born before 1970, so this might be a bit hard to prove.  One issue where we would like to challenge Mr. Behera is regarding Buddha&#8217;s visit to Orissa.  When Huen Tsang visited India in 6<sup>th</sup> century <span class="caps">A.D. </span>he saw some stupas which mentioned Buddha&#8217;s visit to Kalinga. Those stupas <a title="Buddha in Kalinga" href="http://www.varnam.org/history/2005/08/buddha_in_kalinga.php">were discovered</a> last month in an excavation. We hope Mr. Behara is not <em>andha</em> to this fact.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archaeology has <a href="http://www.varnam.org/history/2004/10/archaeologists_back_in_afghani.php" title="Archaeologists back in Afghanistan">returned to Afghanistan</a> in a big way. First there was the announcement regarding the <a href="http://www.varnam.org/history/2004/12/afghan_treasures.php" title="Afghan Treasures">Bactrian Gold.</a>. Then there was constant news about the search for a <a href="http://www.varnam.org/history/2003/09/the_3rd_buddha.php" title="The 3rd Buddha">third reclining Buddha</a> in Bamiyan by Zemaryali Tarzi based on a note <a href="http://www.varnam.org/history/2005/03/search_for_the_third_buddha.php" title="Search for the third Buddha">written by Huen Tsang</a>. Now a Japanese archaeologist team has found some new structures in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamiyan_Province" title="Bamiyan">Bamiyan</a>.</p>

<blockquote>A Buddhist residence and a religious meeting place have been discovered from under a huge amount of debris in the Bamiyan province of Afghanistan.

<p>(&#8230;) Habibolah Takhari, Afghanistan cultural deputy in Iran, says that after one year of the Japanese archaeologists working in Bamiyan, at last two houses have been discovered near the destroyed Buddha statues. According to Takhari, archaeologists believe that these two buildings were Buddhist residences and a place for holding religious meetings.</p>

(&#8230;) The statues were historically damaged a few times before, once early in the thirteenth century when the Bamiyan was attacked by Genghis Khan, by Orangzeb Khan in 1689, and by Abdol Rahman Khan in 1892 all of whom made a lot of efforts to damage the statues.[<a href="http://www.chn.ir/en/news/?id=5604&amp;section=2" title="Buddhist Structures Dug up in Bamiyan">Buddhist Structures Dug up in Bamiyan</a>]</blockquote>

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		<description><![CDATA[While we only have seen pictures of the two Bamiyan Buddhas, archaeologists have been looking for a missing third reclining Buddha. Now they seem to have uncovered the long-missing statue&#8217;s foot.
Two years ago, a French team led by the Afghan-born archeologist Zemaryali Tarzi of Strasbourg University began excavations for the 985-foot-long reclining statue representing the [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[While we only have seen pictures of the two Bamiyan Buddhas, archaeologists have been looking for a missing <a href="http://www.varnam.org/blog/archives/2003/09/the_3rd_buddha.html">third reclining Buddha</a>. Now they seem to have uncovered the long-missing statue&#8217;s foot.<br />
<blockquote>Two years ago, a French team led by the Afghan-born archeologist Zemaryali Tarzi of Strasbourg University began excavations for the 985-foot-long reclining statue representing the Buddha in a state of &#8220;Mahapari nirvana,&#8221; or ultimate enlightenment.The dig finally may have yielded something promising. &#8220;Professor Tarzi has found a structure which has still to be properly identified but which could be part of the foot of the Sleeping Buddha, maybe the toe,&#8221; said Masanori Nagaoka, <span class="caps">UNESCO&#8217;</span>s Kabul-based culture consultant. &#8220;Alternatively, the structure could be the platform on which the giant statue reclined,&#8221; he added. [<a href="http://washingtontimes.com/world/20041203-102141-1648r.htm">Find stirs Sleeping Buddha talk</a>]</blockquote>
And at the same time the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&amp;ObjectID=9001641">Kiwis are helping</a> to piece back the two statues that were  destroyed.

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		<description><![CDATA[A Buddhist body here has said it will seek a court order for display of relics of Lord Buddha discovered in a cave in Orissa during excavations in 1985. The relics, comprising a fragment of a charred bone and ashes contained in a gilded stone casket, were found during excavations by the Archaeological Survey of [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A Buddhist body here has said it will seek a court order for display of relics of Lord Buddha discovered in a cave in Orissa during excavations in 1985. The relics, comprising a fragment of a charred bone and ashes contained in a gilded stone casket, were found during excavations by the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) at Lalitgiri in Jajpur district.</p></blockquote>

<blockquote><p>The casket found at Lalitgiri has no inscriptions but it closely resembles caskets discovered by Alexander Cunningham from the Maha Stupa at Sanchi in 1961. Though researchers across India had demanded the display of the relics, the <span class="caps">ASI </span>reportedly turned down the request for security reasons. &#8220;We don&#8217;t know whether <span class="caps">ASI </span>has the relics or not. Since they are sacred, they should be given to us for worship,&#8221; said Sahu. <a href="http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEQ20040505091605&amp;Page=Q&amp;Title=ORISSA&amp;Topic=0&amp;">NewIndianExpress</a></p></blockquote>

<p>According to another version <a href="http://varnam.org/blog/archives/000099.html">I blogged last year</a>, Buddha&#8217;s bones were discovered in a casket at Vaishaligarh, 35 kilometres from Patna. Then how did they turn up in Orissa ? To add to the mystery, the Chinese are parading what they claim is the <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2004%2F05%2F26%2Fwchina26.xml&amp;sSheet=%2Fportal%2F2004%2F05%2F26%2Fixportal.html">finger of Buddha</a>. There was another news item <a href="http://varnam.org/blog/archives/000152.html">which explained what all bones</a> remained after Buddha&#8217;s body was burned. There was no finger in that list.</p>

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